Carl in New York
Jock night at The Eagle (during pride) was a lot of things, but in short, I would say amazing. I’ve never seen anything like that anywhere in the world.
It was so nice to see so many queer people celebrating our history and just existing. -Paul
Carl: I think in New York you have so much going on and everything is so busy. Sometimes, you don’t really slow down, look around you, and think about what’s going on or appreciate what you see.
Carl: I’ve come to be okay and comfortable in my body and other people seeing it.
Paul: I didn’t really create it. It just happened.
Carl: Having fun… I think it captures that feeling of excitement and enjoyment that I was having, and connecting with you. This also happened organically.
Paul: I knew what I needed to get, but arriving there was challenging.
Carl: The color, the light—it just makes me see myself in quite a different way, a way that I wouldn’t normally see myself.
Paul: These weren’t planned… If something is sexual. I don’t think it needs to be censored by me.
Carl: This feeling of just being lost in the moment… I clearly was at this time. This just feels organic but also kind of vulnerable. I’m not paying attention to what you’re doing in this case; I am in my little world. There’s a certain kind of vulnerability that I’m feeling here, but also joy in what I’m doing.
This conversation has been edited and condensed.
Gay Tv 2025